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Message 49 - Posted: 23 Jun 2012, 6:28:32 UTC

Hallo!
When the application asteroids@home will be issued for Windows?

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Message 51 - Posted: 23 Jun 2012, 10:21:57 UTC

Hi, I hope it will be soon but there are still other things to do so I can't exactly say.

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Message 66 - Posted: 27 Jun 2012, 17:46:12 UTC - in response to Message 51.

maby Orbit@home will beat you to it. Hope you´ll find time to realeace windows soon.

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Message 85 - Posted: 5 Jul 2012, 14:03:55 UTC - in response to Message 66.

Has anyone tried running BOINC under Cygwin?

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Message 108 - Posted: 25 Jul 2012, 1:25:02 UTC - in response to Message 51.
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Sorry...duplicate post.

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Message 109 - Posted: 25 Jul 2012, 1:25:02 UTC - in response to Message 51.

Hi, I hope it will be soon but there are still other things to do so I can't exactly say.

Can you give us any update on this? :-)

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Message 110 - Posted: 25 Jul 2012, 7:24:11 UTC - in response to Message 109.

Why exactly did this project decide to go with the #2 OS on this planet to start with, anyhow? Windows and Linux both would be great, but just the penguin? Sorry, it fails to compute. If you want mega-results, why did you shut out the Windows folks? Disappointing, but I'm still here to crunch when you want to let me in... :)
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Message 115 - Posted: 28 Jul 2012, 23:12:41 UTC

I guess its because, Linux is often the #1 OS in academic enviroments.
This is a brandnew project, and maybe they just started with Linux?
And, to be honest, it would be very sad if a project would have to wait for Windows compatibility before it starts.

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Message 118 - Posted: 29 Jul 2012, 10:57:42 UTC

Regardless of the fact that Linux may be the #1 OS for academic applications, I feel that not having a Windows application rather defeats the object of using the Boinc distributed computing application on this project
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Message 122 - Posted: 30 Jul 2012, 14:04:53 UTC - in response to Message 51.

Sure, it is not very helpful for the project goals.
But they have already written:

Hi, I hope it will be soon but there are still other things to do so I can't exactly say.

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Message 126 - Posted: 1 Aug 2012, 21:41:54 UTC - in response to Message 122.

In order to participate, I pulled down a copy of VirtualBox (Oracle/Sun), and set up a simple VM. Then I pulled the latest Ubuntu and set it up. It took a few hours to get it all correct.

This allows me to run the Linux application.

There is some overhead with the setup, but it does let me contribute during the wait.

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Message 128 - Posted: 2 Aug 2012, 9:23:02 UTC

Wow, nice work. Respect!

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Message 163 - Posted: 28 Aug 2012, 8:26:13 UTC - in response to Message 126.

I don't know why new projects even bother writing apps for Windows and OS X if the project developer's OS of choice is Linux. The Test4Theory@home project has only a Linux app and they run it on OS X and Windows hosts by sending a wrapper application that starts a Linux VM which runs the science app. The beauty of their approach is:

1) they get to develop their app(s) on the OS they are most familiar with
2) they have only 1 version of each app to maintain instead of an app for each OS
3) differences in results due to differences in OS and 32 bit vs. 64 bit is eliminated entirely
4) Oracle also supports Solaris and I know there are 3rd party builds for FreeBSD, BEOS and others, VirtualBox is an open source project

I can't see established projects migrating to VMs but I am convinced it's the way many new projects are going to go. The BOINC developers have cottoned to the idea to the extent that they are working with T4T and other interested projects to develop a wrapper that most projects will hopefully be able to use out of the box or at least use as a model for a wrapper specific to their needs.

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Message 189 - Posted: 4 Sep 2012, 14:05:07 UTC

Because of problem with windows application, we are going to do it this way.

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Message 190 - Posted: 4 Sep 2012, 14:33:06 UTC

I did suggest this a while back here

Its useful if you don't have the manpower to develop apps for every platform. The drawback (if you see it as that) is it only works with BOINC v7 so older clients won't be able to use it. Another drawback is the VDI (virtual disk image) files get fairly big so take time to transfer.
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Message 192 - Posted: 5 Sep 2012, 4:45:28 UTC - in response to Message 190.

Its useful if you don't have the manpower to develop apps for every platform. The drawback (if you see it as that) is it only works with BOINC v7...


The wrapper under development by the BOINC devs requires BOINC v7 and recent server code/patches. The wrapper in use at T4T works with BOINC 6.x and 7.x so 7.x isn't a strict requirement but it enables some nice features.

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Message 213 - Posted: 8 Sep 2012, 15:32:46 UTC - in response to Message 51.

What is the status of the Windows application development? I have not heard anything new lately. I eagerly await!

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Message 214 - Posted: 8 Sep 2012, 18:12:19 UTC - in response to Message 213.
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I think Kyong's message 189 in this thread is saying there won't be a Windows app. Instead they are going to install a virtual Linux machine on Windows hosts (perhaps OS X and Linux hosts as well) so that all hosts will run the same application... the Linux application. That's just my interpretation of Kyong's post, I could be wrong, I suggest waiting for an admin to verify/deny.

BTW, if it's true it won't require any work or knowledge of Linux on the part of Windows users. BOINC would install and manage the virtual Linux machine automatically.

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Message 215 - Posted: 8 Sep 2012, 19:03:10 UTC

Jujube, it's as you wrote. There are still problems either in run the previous version of the app or after editing code in original version and then updating the windows app. It's to much work still solving problems when the code is changed. There also can be other problems in Mac version, so I decided to you vmboxwrapper. There can be windows and mac os app at the same time. The disadvantage is that these versions will be larger than native app because of vm image. I will test it tommorow, then I will let here know.

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Message 217 - Posted: 8 Sep 2012, 23:35:35 UTC - in response to Message 215.

I would not mind using virtual linux as long as BOINC installs and handles all the work automatically. I have never used it before.

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