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Message 4501 - Posted: 11 Jun 2015, 12:37:42 UTC

Is there any way that I can get my Tablet processing for Asteroids@home? It has an Intel Atom 4-core processor. I have been able to register but have never recieved a single WU. Thanks for your help and tips.

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Message 4560 - Posted: 9 Jul 2015, 1:10:38 UTC - in response to Message 4501.

If it's running Android, you're probably gonna be out of luck for almost all the projects that support Android. Android on Intels are a very small portion of the market despite what MS might have you believe.

If it's Windows, it should generally be able to get work unless a project is requiring a certain minimum computation level (based on the benchmarks).

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Message 4561 - Posted: 10 Jul 2015, 8:17:03 UTC - in response to Message 4560.
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Thanks for answering. Yes it is running Android. The only project that sends it WU's at the moment is Collatz. So, if they can manage it why can't other projects?

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Message 4562 - Posted: 10 Jul 2015, 10:42:51 UTC - in response to Message 4561.

Thanks for answering. Yes it is running Android. The only project that sends it WU's at the moment is Collatz. So, if they can manage it why can't other projects?


Each project has to have their own programmer to write their app, few actually share, probably for secrecy reasons. This means that the project must know someone who can do it and will do it for free, or nearly free, as there is not alot of money at most projects. Asteroids is mostly a one man show, he does have some friends that help him out, but he is mostly THE guy.

Collatz tends to be a proof of concept project for stuff, it is usually on the bleeding edge of new stuff before it gets rolled out to the other projects as they chose to do it or not.

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Message 4569 - Posted: 15 Jul 2015, 5:30:02 UTC - in response to Message 4561.

Thanks for answering. Yes it is running Android. The only project that sends it WU's at the moment is Collatz. So, if they can manage it why can't other projects?


If you really want it that bad, learn to code. ;) I don't say to be spiteful, but that's really the best way to get it (unless you know someone who you can get to do it).

Even SETI@home with multiple applications still has to balance the working on the clients. In fact, some of the clients you use now evolved from 3rd party optimized clients. It still doesn't support every possible configuration out there.

There's two things that need to happen:

1. You have to have at least one of the device in the configuration you want to make a client for.

2. There has to be someone who knows how to compile and test the client on that configuration.


Even if you donate a device to the project, someone still has to create it and often times that is done by volunteers, such as students. That person can't focus just on a small segment. Also, if that person leaves, there is nobody to maintain the software.

SETI is under Berkeley's banner, but it doesn't mean that it gets the full force of Berkeley's funds. Most of these projects are under the banner of an educational institution. Some consider themselves lucky just getting hosting services from their institution...

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Message 4572 - Posted: 17 Jul 2015, 14:29:00 UTC - in response to Message 4569.

Thanks for answering. Yes it is running Android. The only project that sends it WU's at the moment is Collatz. So, if they can manage it why can't other projects?


If you really want it that bad, learn to code. ;) I don't say to be spiteful, but that's really the best way to get it (unless you know someone who you can get to do it).

Even SETI@home with multiple applications still has to balance the working on the clients. In fact, some of the clients you use now evolved from 3rd party optimized clients. It still doesn't support every possible configuration out there.

There's two things that need to happen:

1. You have to have at least one of the device in the configuration you want to make a client for.

2. There has to be someone who knows how to compile and test the client on that configuration.


Even if you donate a device to the project, someone still has to create it and often times that is done by volunteers, such as students. That person can't focus just on a small segment. Also, if that person leaves, there is nobody to maintain the software.

SETI is under Berkeley's banner, but it doesn't mean that it gets the full force of Berkeley's funds. Most of these projects are under the banner of an educational institution. Some consider themselves lucky just getting hosting services from their institution...

Indeed much of the code development for the science apps on SETI@home has been done by the lunatics group. An effort was started to test Android x86 apps on SETI@home Beta. However few people have devices for testing & recently time has been directed to other apps that are more widely used.

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Message 4574 - Posted: 18 Jul 2015, 9:01:55 UTC - in response to Message 4569.

Thank you. I guess I will have to wait then as I haven't got a clue about coding.

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Message 4601 - Posted: 22 Aug 2015, 12:58:14 UTC

I have a quad core Intel baytrail tablet powered by 4 Intel Atom Z3735G cores. As this runs x86-android-linux-gnu rather than android on ARM the only projects that support it so far are
collatz
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The atom actually performs very well and is better than my android tv boxes I also use here.

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Message 4602 - Posted: 23 Aug 2015, 13:23:59 UTC

Can you copy log from BOINC client how the platform is identified? I was on holiday so I didn't read forum much. I'll try to compile the app for Intel Atom but I don't have hardware to test it.

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Message 4745 - Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 12:33:10 UTC - in response to Message 4602.

I have a Lenovo S10 mini-laptop which has a duo core Atom processor and I would love to get it running Asteroids. I have experienced problems with other BOINC projects (extended suspensions) due to the 1 Gb RAM (?) available with the laptop and hopefully Asteroids will yield better performance.

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Message 4746 - Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 18:18:30 UTC - in response to Message 4745.
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And where is the Event Log (Ctrl+Shift+E) requested by admin? (first 30-40 lines?)

The first line shows the platform:
Starting BOINC client version 7.6.9 for windows_intelx86
Starting BOINC client version 7.0.25 for windows_x86_64
Starting BOINC client version 7.2.42 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Starting BOINC client version 6.12.38 for arm-android-linux-gnu
Starting BOINC client version 7.0.27 for arm-unknown-linux-gnueabihf
Starting BOINC client version 7.2.39 for x86-android-linux-gnu
(all the above lines found by Google)


P.S.
Here the thread name "Intel Atom" is misleading, it should be?:
Asteroids@home application for Android + Intel
 
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Message 4778 - Posted: 6 Feb 2016, 12:48:26 UTC - in response to Message 4745.
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The problem is not the RAM. The problem is that the projects have not developed a version of their apps for x86 Android devices (Intel CPU). They have a version only for ARM ones (Qualcomm Snapdragon, Exynos, HiSilicon and MediaTek CPUs). Only SETI@Home Beta Test and Collatz Conjecture have ones available for x86 Android devices with Intel CPUs
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Message 4779 - Posted: 6 Feb 2016, 19:14:15 UTC - in response to Message 4778.

The problem is not the RAM. The problem is that the projects have not developed a version of their apps for x86 Android devices (Intel CPU). They have a version only for ARM ones (Qualcomm Snapdragon, Exynos, HiSilicon and MediaTek CPUs). Only SETI@Home Beta Test and Collatz Conjecture have ones available for x86 Android devices with Intel CPUs

My Lenovo S10 is running Windows 7 ... if that matters.

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Message 4782 - Posted: 8 Feb 2016, 21:07:35 UTC - in response to Message 4779.

The problem is not the RAM. The problem is that the projects have not developed a version of their apps for x86 Android devices (Intel CPU). They have a version only for ARM ones (Qualcomm Snapdragon, Exynos, HiSilicon and MediaTek CPUs). Only SETI@Home Beta Test and Collatz Conjecture have ones available for x86 Android devices with Intel CPUs

My Lenovo S10 is running Windows 7 ... if that matters.

You don't have an atom registered at asteroids - make sure the project has been added to the client.

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Message 4805 - Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 10:20:30 UTC
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I've added an ASUS ZenFone Zoom (ASUS_Z00XS Intel Atom Z3580 2.3GHz 64bit, but the project shows 1.33GHz). Are there news about a version for x86 Android devices?
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Message 4806 - Posted: 29 Feb 2016, 12:00:20 UTC - in response to Message 4805.

That 2.3Ghz is the turbo speed, which BOINC has no knowledge of, so it won't be recorded. 1.33Ghz is what BOINC sees. In the OS.

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Message 4809 - Posted: 1 Mar 2016, 10:52:29 UTC

However, are there plans for a x86 Android version?
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Message 4815 - Posted: 3 Mar 2016, 6:44:04 UTC
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Intel Atom Z3580 quad-core 2.3GHz 64bit, 4GB RAM, 54GB of free memory, high power in single core.
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Message 4834 - Posted: 23 Mar 2016, 11:33:42 UTC
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Yes, they are. I am sorry for my inactivity. There were too many other things around me I had to deal with. I also have now very limited internet connection so things are a bit difficult now and slows down my work.


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