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Keritan / Huntley

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Message 782 - Posted: 5 Feb 2013, 2:31:06 UTC
I have not recieved any new work units since 2/1 or 2/2.

Anyone else having an issue? or Have any ideas?

I do not have the project suspended or tagged 'no new tasks' and I have made no changes in any settings.


Thank You!
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Message 791 - Posted: 5 Feb 2013, 21:41:01 UTC - in response to Message 782.  
You aren't getting any responses because people don't want to do your homework for you. Everything you need to solve most of this puzzle if not all is right there on your own computer or else just a mouse click or 2 away.

Did you bother to check your Event Log to see if your computer is even requesting tasks? And if it is, does it give any reason for not receiving any?

Did you bother to check the News area on the project's homepage to see if there was a server outage?

If you can't bother to do those simple checks first, before you post here, you'll find very few people are willing to help. Sorry for being abrupt but your stats indicate you've been with SETI since 2007. Since SETI has frequent work stoppages/shortages you should be very familiar with what you need to look at and think about when tasks stop flowing to you. If you haven't learned that by now then you needed this kick in the butt.

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Message 792 - Posted: 6 Feb 2013, 0:48:43 UTC
Hmm, Someone has big ego. Better watch out for sharp pins, don't want that head to deflate to fast....

Perhaps if you read the original post a little slower, you would see that I did do some "homework" as you put it. Obviously, if I said I had not suspended anything or changed any settings, you can fairly correctly assume that I at least looked through those things and found nothing amiss. It was working just fine before and nothing has been changed, should keep working without a problem.

The event log doesn't say anything but update requested by user, sending scheduler request: requested by user, not reporting or requesting tasks, task completed. Now, since selecting to update for a specific project is how you "update" a project it is also how you get tasks downloaded to your machine. Therefore, I can figure out that even though I am selecting update and not getting anything, there is something amiss. Just a by the way, other projects working just fine.

Yes, I did check the message boards and home page, how do you think I got here? The post was an attempt to see if anyone else was havnig a problem, could have been a weekend thing and no news had been posted yet. You never know unless you ask. Since there was nothing obvious on my end, there was no need to write a book about the hour(s) I spent looking over things multiple times. Just toss out a simple question.


By the way, still don't know why the three days of no new work units since apparently there wasn't an unplanned outage but I did manage to kick the program into operation by 'reseting' the project.

Have a nice day. And you can take that 'kick in the butt' and stow it where the sun doesn't shine. Try being polite, it works better.
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Message 793 - Posted: 6 Feb 2013, 1:06:10 UTC
not reporting or requesting tasks

You are not receiving new tasks because Boinc is not requesting any. Boinc is most likely not requesting Asteroids tasks because your cache is full of Seti and Einstein work for the size you have set. Set Asteroids to a higher priority, let the other projects WUs work their way through your system and you should start seeing Asteroids tasks.
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Message 794 - Posted: 6 Feb 2013, 7:25:23 UTC - in response to Message 792.  
Hmm, Someone has big ego. Better watch out for sharp pins, don't want that head to deflate to fast....


1,000 men smarter than you have tried and none have been able to so far. You are simply failure 1,001. Read on.

Perhaps if you read the original post a little slower, you would see that I did do some "homework" as you put it. Obviously, if I said I had not suspended anything or changed any settings, you can fairly correctly assume that I at least looked through those things and found nothing amiss.


You make stupid assumptions like that but I don't and you'll find very few people here who do. If you say you didn't change anything that in no way implies you looked at anything, all it means to normal people is that you didn't change settings.

It was working just fine before and nothing has been changed, should keep working without a problem.


Well that's a stupid assumption. Maybe something you didn't look at changed, maybe something that isn't on your computer or in your control.

The event log doesn't say anything but update requested by user, sending scheduler request: requested by user, not reporting or requesting tasks, task completed. Now, since selecting to update for a specific project is how you "update" a project it is also how you get tasks downloaded to your machine. Therefore, I can figure out that even though I am selecting update and not getting anything, there is something amiss. Just a by the way, other projects working just fine.


Well why didn't you say that in the first place? Obviously, if it's not requesting tasks then it's not going to get any tasks. Duh!! You make all these other crazy assumptions and expect us to make crazy assumptions but this one simple little thing... the fact that it's not requesting tasks.... escapes you. How can that be??? Like I said above, 1,000 men a lot smarter than you ....

Yes, I did check the message boards and home page, how do you think I got here?


One doesn't need to check other messages or News on home page to just come here and post a whine such as yours. Why do you assume we are stupid enough to buy that BS? I bet you vote Republican, don't ya?!

The post was an attempt to see if anyone else was havnig a problem, could have been a weekend thing and no news had been posted yet. You never know unless you ask. Since there was nothing obvious on my end,


Huh??!! Nothing obvious???!!! WTF dude!!! What part of "not requesting tasks" do you not understand? Admit it... you're lonely and have no one to talk to so you post here for attention.

there was no need to write a book


Book wasn't required. The "not requesting tasks" in your Event Log tells you everything you need to know.

By the way, still don't know why the three days of no new work units since apparently there wasn't an unplanned outage but I did manage to kick the program into operation by 'reseting' the project.


A reset was totally unnecessary, absolutely the wrong way to solve the problem.

Have a nice day. And you can take that 'kick in the butt' and stow it where the sun doesn't shine. Try being polite, it works better.


Nope, I just kicked you in the butt again. You've been getting it polite since 2007 and you still haven't learned. Next time this happens to you, and it will happen again, you'll remember my boot print on your butt and understand what "not requesting tasks" means.

And you'll not attempt to pass off your BS on people brighter than you.

Now... do you understand why your client was not requesting tasks? See, that would have been the sensible thing for you to post about... "Why is my computer not requesting tasks?" I'll bet dollars to donuts you don't know why and I'll bet you're too proud to admit it and ask the question. Friggin' republicans.
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Message 819 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 0:02:36 UTC
Swiftmallard,

Thank you for the thought. I had a similar idea that about the room allocated for BOINC being full. I only run Asteroids and Seti on this machine at even resource sharing. Disk management screen showed that I still had over 8GB of free space allocated to BOINC. I also thought that maybe out of the 4 days of work I set BOINC to keep on my computer, that Seti was taking up all of it. So after 2 days of no Asteroids work, I set Seti to not accept new work and kicked a couple units off the computer and waited a day with no new Asteroids work. Which took me to checking to see if anyone else was having or had had a similar occurance.

But all is good now since I reset the project. Like I said, everything was working great for over a week and I had changed nothing. This computer sits in a spare room that I only go into every now and then to check up on it to make sure everything is still running. Just all of a sudden, Asteroids stopped getting work to do. And after kicking it in the pants with a reset, its happy as can be.
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Message 820 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 0:49:39 UTC
Dagorath,

You are the MAN!!. thank you thank you thank you. You just made me $50 from a bet I made with my wife. To be honest, I haven't read anymore then the first 2 sentences you wrote. I called her into the room to show her and now I am $50 richer. See we don't argue about anything we don't have to. If there is a disagreement, we wager depending on how right we think we are. And this time I won again. See, she thought you would be mature like the adult you think you are and that you would read all of what I wrote and pick out the salient points and respond accordingly. I bet you would be an immature teenager in your response. One that thinks he is better then everyone else and that you would pick apart every little thing I wrote. More importantly, That you wouldn't read the post in its wholeness and take away from it the important aspects.

So, frankly and honestly, I don't give a rats crap what you think and I am not going to read your reponses since I already know you were not smart enough to catch the important part. Therefore, nothing you wrote is in response to the problem I first asked about. I changed NOTHING on my computer, didn't touch a thing. If all of a sudden something stops working and you haven't changed anything, then its an outside force or issue that is causing the problem.

So, again. Thank You. You have made my day and probably the whole weekend. Knowing that some little idiot out there who thinks he knows more then everyone else is spinning in his seat and fuming over not pissing me off.

Na, I take it back, I'll enjoy this until the next bet with the wife, so maybe a week of laughing at you. Have a great day dumba$$
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Message 821 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 5:17:08 UTC - in response to Message 820.  

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If all of a sudden something stops working and you haven't changed anything, then its an outside force or issue that is causing the problem.

If you mean "outside of your body" you may be right.
But if you mean "outside of my/your computer" you are probably wrong.

Your computer 'works', right?
This means hundreds of processes 'do something' without your consent every day/minute/second.

In this case it is probably BOINC

The "not reporting or requesting tasks" means "BOINC thinks you have enough work on-board" (per your settings)
(you can't really expect server to send you something if you (BOINC) did not ask for it; server never sends work on its own;)

May be caused by:
- enough work from your other projects (SETI@home, Einstein@Home) (the settings for 'days work' are total work (sum) from all the projects)
- overestimated times 'To completion' (small work looks as big to BOINC)
- you used the computer 'heavy' (e.g. for games) with BOINC running (now BOINC thinks your computer become very slow)
- computer was OFF for a long time (now BOINC thinks you will switch it OFF regularly so less time for computing in the future)
- RAC here is high and for other projects is low (not proportional to 'Resource share')

(BOINC accounts for everything to estimate what means "one (calendar) day of work" and from which project to fill the buffer (cache) of tasks)


And which one of your computers (give link) you are talking about?:
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/hosts_user.php?userid=6059
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=8630580
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=275238


I only run Asteroids and Seti on this machine at even resource sharing.
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I set Seti to not accept new work and kicked a couple units off the computer and waited a day with no new Asteroids work

If "even resource sharing" BOINC will try to achieve similar/equal RAC for both projects.
It may need several days to decide to switch working for the other project.
And even if "no new work" is set there are tasks on board for which BOINC have to think ("Do I need more tasks from the allowed project or I need to do the tasks I already have")
(disk space is irrelevant)





- ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)
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Message 822 - Posted: 9 Feb 2013, 11:32:22 UTC - in response to Message 820.  
<yawn>

You haven't actually fixed it so your problem will return. Then you'll continue your little repuglican retard dance and get even weirder and dumber.

The "didn't piss me off" thing is a Freudian slip if you think about it. Opps! Sorry, I forgot... you repuglicans deplore thinking.
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Message 911 - Posted: 23 Feb 2013, 12:42:08 UTC - in response to Message 793.  
thx for the help! very useful.
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