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Message 6475 - Posted: 19 Mar 2020, 11:05:46 UTC
Hello.

As title states. here are some example tasks:
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=284525383
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=284496189

AVX version runs correctly.
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Message 6476 - Posted: 19 Mar 2020, 22:26:19 UTC
Interestingly, on my main computer SSE2 and SSE3 versions work correctly.
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Message 6477 - Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 1:02:24 UTC

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Message 6479 - Posted: 20 Mar 2020, 21:07:37 UTC

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I have over 900 avx tasks with computation errors just in the last 48ish hours...
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Message 6496 - Posted: 24 Mar 2020, 18:50:07 UTC
Hello everyone,

Thank you for participating in Asteroids@home.

It's a known issue and we've been working on a resolution for the past few weeks.
It will be fixed very soon.
Please excuse us for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience.

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Message 6518 - Posted: 30 Mar 2020, 12:01:07 UTC
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=286739753
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=286269415
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=286879632
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=286879729
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=286890095
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=287254143
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=287258566
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=287264065
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=287308255
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=287312753
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=287315612
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=287318417
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=287359317
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=287362086
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=288504284
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=288504929
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=288505773
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=287377069
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=288507206
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=287385249

Error this applications in operating system "Windows XP-SP2 x64 Edition"
(Period Search Application v102.10 and 102.12 for sse2/sse3).

After each change in the design applications, they should be thoroughly tested ...
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Message 6520 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 15:24:14 UTC - in response to Message 6518.  
Hi Ferdinand-QVC,
Thank you for participating in Asteroid@home and for your feedback.
We are working at the moment on resolving that issue. I hope it will be sorted out in very short time.

Thank you for your patience.

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Message 6522 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 16:54:41 UTC
Good.

It is advisable to warn about the release of the corrected applications through BOINC notifications.
Until then, I have to suspend the execution of applications in this project.
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Message 6523 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 21:04:35 UTC - in response to Message 6522.  
Dear Ferdinand-QVC,

May I suggest you to check your computer for other issues, like overheating, memory errors, driver incompatibility, hard disk errors etc. It seams your troubles starts somewhere around the 24th of March and they actually affects Asteroids@home.
There was no any changes in applications your client uses neither in the system at that time.

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Message 6524 - Posted: 1 Apr 2020, 8:10:45 UTC
Ok, I understand you .
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Message 6528 - Posted: 2 Apr 2020, 12:58:03 UTC
Hello again.
I tried to identify the cause of the error, but to no avail ...

- checked the RAM and hard drive for errors;
- lowered the frequency of the CPU to reduce heat;
- rolled back the GPU driver to a more stable version (up to version 8.821.0.0 of January 26, 2011 for ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series on WinXP-SP2 x64);
- Reinstalled the BOINC client and restarted the project.

However, all this did not help: as before, tasks from the project give an error immediately after loading (even doesn't manage to calculate anything).

http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=287899007
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=287899503
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=287899039
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=287898954
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=287900542
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=287900968
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=287901464
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=288634899
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Message 6529 - Posted: 3 Apr 2020, 17:16:25 UTC - in response to Message 6528.  
Hi Ferdinand-QVC,
Thank you for your patience and your feedback.

May I ask you to try again. We've made some changes in the project. This time everything should be OK.
You will need to do a "Reset project" from "Project" tab in "Boinc manager" first.
Then you may also need to do an "Update" one or two times.

Thanks,
Georgi
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Message 6537 - Posted: 4 Apr 2020, 9:19:11 UTC
Good afternoon.
Applications were downloaded separately for WinXP (under sse3), while they work fine ...

After about 1-2 weeks I’ll inform about the test results, at the same time I will check the health of applications under sse2 on the old Pentium M processor
(as far as I remember, there were also errors in sse2 applications)
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Message 6558 - Posted: 13 Apr 2020, 6:16:29 UTC
I looked the operation of the applications - on a computer with a 64-bit system, WinXP-SP2 are calculated without problems. The only thing is that the Boinc client remaining time indicator at the beginning of the calculation shows an overestimated value.

However, the applications "Period Search Application v102.13 (sse2_winxp)" refused to work on another computer with a Pentium M processor and WinXP-SP3 x32. After restarting the project, this version of the application no longer appeared there...

http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=288330644
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=288330959
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Message 6560 - Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 19:52:46 UTC - in response to Message 6558.  
Hi Ferdinand-QVC,

Thank you for your feedback. It seams server has denoted that particular computer against newer version. It will receive older application that is already proven to work on it from now on.

Thanks.
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Message 6565 - Posted: 17 Apr 2020, 7:16:22 UTC
Ok.
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Message 7544 - Posted: 6 Dec 2022, 15:53:07 UTC
Good afternoon.

The old problem with calculations by the "Period Search Application v102.13 (sse2_winxp)" in the WindowsXP-SP3 (x86) operating system on a computer with a Pentium M processor remains - immediately after the start of the calculation, it gives a calculation error, while the application file itself starts without problems.
https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=347656770

I tried to fix it by attaching all jobs to the "Period Search Application v102.10 windows_intelx86" file using app_info.xml, but the calculations are bad - the job completion counter shows incorrect values, resetting to zero after 0.01%...
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Message 7549 - Posted: 6 Dec 2022, 18:01:41 UTC - in response to Message 7544.  
Hi,
My I ask you to try with the "period_search_10213_windows_intelx86__sse3_winxp.exe" while you're using app_config.xml setup. Your CPU supports the SSE3 extensions so should do fine with that. Just double check everything inside your app_config.xml according to the documentation first https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration.

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Message 7555 - Posted: 7 Dec 2022, 9:33:32 UTC

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As far as I know, the Pentium M (Dothan) processor supports the SSE2 instruction set, but it no longer supports SSE3, so using the new calculation application "period_search_10213_windows_intelx86__sse3_winxp.exe" will not work...
I don’t understand why the application for SSE2 incorrectly calculates, because the processor supports this instruction set. Moreover, recently the tasks were calculated on the older application "Period Search Application v102.10 windows_intelx86" (without any attach via "app_info.xml" file) and there were no problems...

The results of the failed calculate show (https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=347656770):

Unhandled Exception Detected...

- Unhandled Exception Record -
Reason: Illegal Instruction (0xc000001d) at address 0x004016D4
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Message 7567 - Posted: 12 Dec 2022, 3:14:55 UTC
Found the cause of the error - the server sends the wrong application for the calculation. In the properties of the application file "period_search_10213_windows_intelx86__sse2_winxp.exe", the original file name is listed as "Period_search_sse3.exe", i.e. the calculation file itself is named incorrectly, it is designed for processors with the SSE3 instruction, not SSE2...
Please fix sending files on job server.
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