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Message 8965 - Posted: 26 Apr 2025, 10:38:43 UTC - in response to Message 8936.  

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> Can you use the IA tensor cores of nvidia to program ASIC of asteroids at home?

No, tensor cores do support low-precision data types like FP16, they're specifically built for AI workloads. The Asteroids app depends on FP64, and lower precisions aren't good enough. That’s also why none of the existing BOINC projects make use of tensor cores (or NPUs); they're not suitable for scientific computing. Like ASICs, tensor cores are highly specialized, great for AI, but pretty much useless for most scientific applications.


Technically the chip GB203 of rtx5070ti have tensor cores in FP64

When i received the chips AMD, i wil make the computers, about final of month may, in my country the transport is bad, and very slow.
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Message 8974 - Posted: 9 May 2025, 23:12:36 UTC

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He empezado las pruebas con el equipo AMD 7950x RX9070XT, esta 5 minutos procesando la tarea con la frecuencia de la memoria de la tarjeta entre 1200mhz u 1538mhz,, totalmente fria consumiendo 83wats, y despues , pasados los 5 minutos comienza a procesar, procesa 3 minutos y 18 segundos empieza a calientarse hasta los 2786mhz de memoria consumiendo 220-236wats, haciendo un total de 8minutos y 14 segundos, definitivamente hay algo mal en las tareas ps_250507_input_29478_69 (221603 bytes). porque solo trabaja a alta frecuencia la memoria los ultimos 3 minutos Las tareas tardan lo mismo que una rtx4060.

Los amd 7950x son especialmente calientes, sin overclok los 32 hilos al 75% de tiempo llegan 70ºC a 75ºC. suelen tardar 40 minutos cada tarea, una pequeña o ligera diferencia frente a los 45 minutos de loa amd ryzen 9 5900x.

Los amd7950x con ddr5 es la peor inversion que he realizado, rinden casi lo mismo que amd 5900x con ddr4, voy a dejarlo trabajando unos dias para ver los datos, creo que los tiempos se estan reduciendo.

Una cosa curiosa de rx9070xt , es que la temperatura de la memoria es 10 grados superior 71ºC, a hot spot 64ºC , cuando la gpu solo tiene 43ºC
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Message 8975 - Posted: 10 May 2025, 23:43:01 UTC - in response to Message 8974.  
Zen 4 offers some enhancements over Zen 3, higher clock speeds, a larger L2 cache, and support for AVX-512 (limited to 2×256-bit execution). The power efficiency is also better thanks to 7->5nm process node.

You can see up to 30% improvement in some apps, but in most cases, the gains are only a few percent, primarily due to the increased clock speeds. If you expected more, you'll be disappointed... The days when each new CPU architecture brought a 2× performance leap are long gone.
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Message 8978 - Posted: 16 May 2025, 14:42:18 UTC - in response to Message 8975.  
I disagree, I think it's software, given that the computing power of the RX9070XT is much higher than the RTX4060, and they get exactly the same score.


Estoy en desacuerdo, creo que es software, dado que la potencia de calculo de la RX9070XT es muy superior a RTX4060, y sacan exactamente la misma puntuacion
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Message 8979 - Posted: 16 May 2025, 18:56:15 UTC - in response to Message 8978.  
I disagree, I think it's software, given that the computing power of the RX9070XT is much higher than the RTX4060, and they get exactly the same score.


Estoy en desacuerdo, creo que es software, dado que la potencia de calculo de la RX9070XT es muy superior a RTX4060, y sacan exactamente la misma puntuacion



Yes, i using the rtx4060 on folding at home, and i obtain 4.000.000 ponts per day, but i now i using the rtx5070ti, and obtain 25.000.000 points per day.


In asteroids the rtx4060 work 1 unit 6-8 minute /wu = 50points
Buy the rx9070xt work 1unit 6-5 min /wu 50 points

I think is the software of application on asteroids
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Message 8980 - Posted: 16 May 2025, 22:57:33 UTC
It's ultimately about the software. While you can compare the RTX 4060 and RX 9700 XT based on FLOPS in areas like FP32 for peak performance, the actual performance can vary depending on the specific workload.

you can check some compute benchmarks here
https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-radeon-rx9070-linux-compute/3

Software and driver optimizations can certainly help, and the Asteroids GPU app currently doesn’t scale well on high-end GPUs due to memory bottlenecks rather then compute power, so there’s definitely room for improvement on the software side for both AMD/NVidia cards.
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