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Message 1327 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 7:54:17 UTC
Still, I am posting the same issue.

Is it possible that you have a fundamental problem by trying to cross-validate results over different CPU types and operating systems? My machine has ID 30648 (i7 system, 8 GB RAM, Windows 7 Prof, 64 Bit) and since yesterday it has processed around 30 results which all are listed as "validation inconclusive".

Among the other machies returning the inconclusive results there are Darwin, Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows 8 Pro, etc. (32 and/or 64 bit). So fa no Linux or ARM machine.

By the way: I run an ODROID-U2 (ARM Cortex-A9) under Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and it works fine with Asteroids@home - maybe you want to add that in your projects applications page (ARM support not only for Raspberry Pi or ARM Android).

With our RNA World project, we figured that validation is giving a carriage return problem when the output data is text file (Linux doed not validate Windows results). Another isssue is a fundamental rounding differences between AMD and Intel (AMD will not validate Intel results and vice versa) - possibly Apple?

Just a few ideas, you might probably also have thought of already...

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Message 1328 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 11:10:24 UTC
Every ODROID has the same processor? I don't have any so I have to check some information about it to know what platforms I have to add to it. But it would be better to compile it for the specific processor.
Your inconclusive results should be marked as valid after one more result is completed. I restarted validator and replaced with new version. I am still watching it because it take some time till results are marked as inconclusive so I can't test it on test server because there is still everything ok so determining the exact problem isn't easy.
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Message 1329 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 11:54:05 UTC - in response to Message 1328.  

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Well, I can tell you for sure that ODROID-U2 and ODROID-X2 do both run with your currently supplied Asteroid@home clients.

In general, the more recent ODROID systems fall into two classes that differ by using two types of CPUs:

Samsung Exynos 4412 Prime: 1.7 GHz CPU clock frequency
ODROID-U2
ODROID-X2
ODROID-Q2

and the older

Samsung Exynos 4412: 1.4 GHz CPU clock frequency
ODROID-U
ODROID-X
ODROID-Q

I suspect that all should run with the same client, but as said above, I (and a friend) have tested only two of them in practice.

Of course there are other ODROID families, as you can see here:

http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php

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Message 1330 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 12:02:42 UTC
Interestingly, my ODROID-U2 has only two inconclusive results, but for the following WU all three results differ (are incinclusive):

http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/workunit.php?wuid=2436444

So, there is a fundamental problem with validation.
What I do not understand is that there are results that DO validate. This should not happen if it is a rounding issue or a carriage return problem.

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Message 1331 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 21:06:28 UTC
It's also happening on CPU. I had not had many inconclusive results before this last few days, now I have over a dozen.
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Message 1332 - Posted: 1 Jun 2013, 21:23:02 UTC
I have 19 inconclusive from both systems.
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Message 1333 - Posted: 2 Jun 2013, 13:03:50 UTC
Validator is under investigating but as I wrote, if the results are good they will be marked as valid in the end. So there is no need to be worried about it.
What application version do you run on Odroid? Raspberry Pi or Anroid? Both or compiled for ARM but for the specific processor.
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Message 1334 - Posted: 2 Jun 2013, 15:01:55 UTC - in response to Message 1333.  
What application version do you run on Odroid?

I am running your official version of Period Search Application v100.00.

Please check these results of my i7 system which are marked as invalid:
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/results.php?hostid=30648&offset=0&show_names=1&state=5&appid=

I highly doubt that these are invalid.

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Message 1557 - Posted: 22 Aug 2013, 8:42:00 UTC
Tried A@H again but again inconclusive so bye bye.
Just want a project that has it's business 100% up and running and A@H is clearly not the one.
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Message 1559 - Posted: 22 Aug 2013, 9:14:02 UTC - in response to Message 1557.  

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Tried A@H again but again inconclusive so bye bye.
Just want a project that has it's business 100% up and running and A@H is clearly not the one.


You do not lose any credits. All valid tasks will be validated with next returned result.

And results are scientific valid and are useful.
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Message 1560 - Posted: 22 Aug 2013, 10:08:21 UTC - in response to Message 1559.  
A fellow cruncher draw my attention to http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=173 so I will give it another try.
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