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Message 1296 - Posted: 24 May 2013, 18:07:32 UTC
my settings are permanently erased and my team is constantly erased ... that was it for me with this project .. have fun without me!

Warning: Creating default object from empty value in /home/boincadm/projects/boinc/html/project/project_specific_prefs.inc on line 206

Too many errors on this page and with this project!

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Message 1301 - Posted: 25 May 2013, 7:04:52 UTC
If there are so many problems why don't you write them? I can hardly repair them without feedback. Just criticism isn't helping.
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Message 1305 - Posted: 25 May 2013, 13:41:49 UTC - in response to Message 1301.  
Reisende soll man nicht aufhalten.
Und Tschüss!
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Message 1310 - Posted: 29 May 2013, 6:39:25 UTC

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Back to the topic of this thread.

I was getting removed from my team for the second time this month yesterday.

Why does this happen? Do I need to expect to be removed from the team again?
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Message 1311 - Posted: 29 May 2013, 9:56:55 UTC
Can you specific exact date and time when this happened? I will check logs but there is too many information and there are no name IDs, just numbers what was good or not in team count. So I will try to figure it out but without exact times it will be difficult.
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Message 1315 - Posted: 30 May 2013, 11:12:44 UTC
I was removed from my team again (3rd time).

I don't have date or time when the removals happened.
Looking at the stats at Free-DC you can take the dates when team changes were exported (section Historic Team Movements).
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Message 1317 - Posted: 31 May 2013, 6:11:09 UTC - in response to Message 1315.  
I was removed from my team again (3rd time).

Is this "your" team?:
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/team_display.php?teamid=59

'Founder [BOINCstats] Willy'
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/show_user.php?userid=99

You can say "my team" only if you are the Founder
(I think Founder have right to ban you from the team, ask him (link above) about the issue)





- ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)
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Message 1318 - Posted: 31 May 2013, 7:40:33 UTC - in response to Message 1317.  
I was removed from my team again (3rd time).

Is this "your" team?:
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/team_display.php?teamid=59

'Founder [BOINCstats] Willy'
http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/show_user.php?userid=99

You can say "my team" only if you are the Founder
(I think Founder have right to ban you from the team, ask him (link above) about the issue)



I said "my team" because I joined them. I'm not the founder.
I asked Willy and he said he didn't ban me.

Today I needed to join the team again since I was removed again.
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Message 1319 - Posted: 31 May 2013, 8:41:03 UTC
That is strange. I found the log from yesterday and a few days ago and there is that there were no changes made to the team. Is there anyone else who has the same problem? I will try to search other logs if there is any information about it.
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Message 1320 - Posted: 31 May 2013, 10:05:39 UTC - in response to Message 1318.  
Today I needed to join the team again since I was removed again.

Are you using BAM or some other Manager? Are you joining on the site, but not through your manager? Your Manager will adjusts all your projects to the preferences saved in it and does not care what changes you make to a single site.
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Message 1321 - Posted: 31 May 2013, 11:07:05 UTC - in response to Message 1320.  

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Are you using BAM or some other Manager? Are you joining on the site, but not through your manager? Your Manager will adjusts all your projects to the preferences saved in it and does not care what changes you make to a single site.

I joined the team using BAM and I'm still a team member on BAM.
I was removed from the team only on the project and re-joined the team manually on the project.
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Message 1322 - Posted: 31 May 2013, 13:14:12 UTC - in response to Message 1321.  
I joined the team using BAM and I'm still a team member on BAM.
I was removed from the team only on the project and re-joined the team manually on the project.

Work with Willy at BAM. Sometimes he needs to make adjustments against projects to fix these issues or he may have to work with the Project admin to get all the settings to hold.

This has happened before with other projects. Sometimes a backend update doesn't work well with how BAM adjusts settings.

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Message 1323 - Posted: 31 May 2013, 16:04:56 UTC - in response to Message 1322.  
Work with Willy at BAM. Sometimes he needs to make adjustments against projects to fix these issues or he may have to work with the Project admin to get all the settings to hold.

This has happened before with other projects. Sometimes a backend update doesn't work well with how BAM adjusts settings.


I tested a bit. The team membership was removed just after changing and syncing the work preferences on BOINCstats with the project.

I asked Willy about this behaviour, his answer is:
Team membership and preferences share the same RPC's to communicate with the project, but with different contents. When sending prefs without team info, the team should not change, as was at least the case up until now. Should this RPC be implemented incorrectly at the project side, then with sending no team info, but setting it anyway, that would most probably result in setting to team to abs(nothing) which is 0. And 0 means no team.
A bit cryptic maybe. It means I think the problem is with the projects.


Does a RPC setting the work preferences affect the team membership at the project?
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Message 1324 - Posted: 31 May 2013, 17:53:27 UTC - in response to Message 1323.  
Does a RPC setting the work preferences affect the team membership at the project?

RPC means Remote Procedure Call, so BAM is making a call to the project site which should in turn make the adjustments to your account. If there is a misalignment as to the call and the project accepting the call then that could be where the issue lies.

With each BOINC backend change (project side), sometimes those calls can get adjusted wrong or missed. Sounds like what might be happening in this instance. I do not use any Manager, but am very aware of some of the issues over the years.

So I'd suggest the Admin from here work with Willy to get the settings adjusted as not to cause this to keep happening.
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Message 1325 - Posted: 31 May 2013, 18:13:54 UTC
Good idea, I didn't modified anything that has to do with RPC, everything is in default BOINC server settings. If I would knew what to edit I can fix the problem. Can you ask him what is supposed to edit and where if possible?
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Message 1335 - Posted: 3 Jun 2013, 13:06:04 UTC - in response to Message 1325.  
Good idea, I didn't modified anything that has to do with RPC, everything is in default BOINC server settings. If I would knew what to edit I can fix the problem. Can you ask him what is supposed to edit and where if possible?


Can you please contact Willy directly (via PM)?

I suppose it's the Set account info RPC what you should check.
The attribute teamid is optionally. If it's not in the request the team should not be set.
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Message 1364 - Posted: 30 Jun 2013, 16:24:56 UTC - in response to Message 1335.  
I think I just had this same problem. Any progress on figuring out what is causing it?
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Message 1413 - Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 14:58:31 UTC
Unfortunately not, I didn't have much time to solve this but I discover that this is an issue with more projects but it affect only very few users so it could be a common issue but due to so little users affected it would seem that there no problem elsewhere. But I am still going to find the problem.
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Message 4970 - Posted: 9 Sep 2016, 20:26:21 UTC
Hello,

I think the problem solved, sorry for my bad temper at the beginning of this trouble and excuse my bad english


I give a lot of CPU time in this project ;-) and hope it will be useful for asteroidsathome.net
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