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Message 1815 - Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 14:08:45 UTC
Maybe a newbie question, but is it normal to have a work unit downloaded, whose time for completion is to be 52 hours 46 minutes. all my other work units are in the area of 1 hour 30 minutes or so, but this latest downloaded W/U shows over 52 hours.

just asking is all....LOL.

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Message 1819 - Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 17:04:06 UTC - in response to Message 1815.  
It's not real time. Times should be same as before. Boinc client will adjust time estimation after some complete workunits.
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Message 1822 - Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 17:47:44 UTC
thanks for that info.

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Message 1824 - Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 22:44:20 UTC
I too noticed a big increase in estimated completion times shown by BOINC.
It seems that the reason is an increased <rsc_fpops_est> value in the init_data.xml file for the new WUs.

<rsc_fpops_est>315010000000000.000000</rsc_fpops_est>


That results in 315010 GFLOPS. AFAIK the old value was something like 10000(?) GFLOPS.
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Message 1828 - Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 8:46:08 UTC
I'm not so concerned about time of completion, since there are no WU's available as of 01:45 PST... Where's the BEEF?
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Message 1829 - Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 9:14:24 UTC - in response to Message 1828.  
I'm not so concerned about time of completion, since there are no WU's available as of 01:45 PST... Where's the BEEF?


It looks we'd better set both Min. & Max. Additional Work Buff to 10 days.
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Message 1834 - Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 11:37:15 UTC - in response to Message 1828.  

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I'm not so concerned about time of completion, since there are no WU's available as of 01:45 PST... Where's the BEEF?



BEEF???no Beef, as a newbie just wanted to understand the estimated time difference between W/U`s, now i understand. As far as no new W/U`s, i got 6 new W/U`s this morning.

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Message 1836 - Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 12:24:11 UTC - in response to Message 1834.  

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I'm not so concerned about time of completion, since there are no WU's available as of 01:45 PST... Where's the BEEF?



BEEF???no Beef, as a newbie just wanted to understand the estimated time difference between W/U`s, now i understand. As far as no new W/U`s, i got 6 new W/U`s this morning.

best regards,

Tom.

i don't think Viking69 is suggesting you have beef with anyone regarding the new estimated run times...i think he meant "where's the new work" when he said "where's the beef," b/c the server seems very low on new tasks ready to send right now...

i imagine that the massive increase in estimated run times is a result of having updated most of the applications a few days ago...though i can't confirm this b/c i currently have a queue full of Einstein@Home work, and probably won't get any new A@H tasks for a while.
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Message 1837 - Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 15:26:05 UTC - in response to Message 1824.  
I too noticed a big increase in estimated completion times shown by BOINC.
It seems that the reason is an increased <rsc_fpops_est> value in the init_data.xml file for the new WUs.

<rsc_fpops_est>315010000000000.000000</rsc_fpops_est>


That results in 315010 GFLOPS. AFAIK the old value was something like 10000(?) GFLOPS.
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Message 1838 - Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 15:37:36 UTC - in response to Message 1836.  
I'm not so concerned about time of completion, since there are no WU's available as of 01:45 PST... Where's the BEEF?



BEEF???no Beef, as a newbie just wanted to understand the estimated time difference between W/U`s, now i understand. As far as no new W/U`s, i got 6 new W/U`s this morning.

best regards,

Tom.

i don't think Viking69 is suggesting you have beef with anyone regarding the new estimated run times...i think he meant "where's the new work" when he said "where's the beef," b/c the server seems very low on new tasks ready to send right now...

i imagine that the massive increase in estimated run times is a result of having updated most of the applications a few days ago...though i can't confirm this b/c i currently have a queue full of Einstein@Home work, and probably won't get any new A@H tasks for a while.



Thanks Sunny 129, sorry to Viking69, no offence meant, sometimes the meaning of text does not translate well so i was unsure of what he meant to say.

Looks like its correct at the moment about lack of W/U`s, i`m on my last one with no new downloads at the moment.

best regards .

Tom.
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Message 1839 - Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 17:45:24 UTC - in response to Message 1838.  
Tom, no offense taken. I guess my use of a phrase from a 1970's era commercial for a national hamburger chain might be misinterpreted as you having a "beef" (problem, issue, disagreement) with the system admins here at A@H. I was using it to ask "where is the work?", since the server shows Tasks ready to send 1 .
This project has been feeding me lots of work for the last 2 months as I work my way to 1 million credits.
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Message 1840 - Posted: 29 Sep 2013, 18:05:08 UTC - in response to Message 1839.  
Tom, no offense taken. I guess my use of a phrase from a 1970's era commercial for a national hamburger chain might be misinterpreted as you having a "beef" (problem, issue, disagreement) with the system admins here at A@H. I was using it to ask "where is the work?", since the server shows Tasks ready to send 1 .
This project has been feeding me lots of work for the last 2 months as I work my way to 1 million credits.

Kyong is adding them now.
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Message 1851 - Posted: 30 Sep 2013, 8:42:57 UTC - in response to Message 1839.  

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... I guess my use of a phrase from a 1970's era commercial for a national hamburger chain ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug75diEyiA0

It even made it to Wikipedia :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where%27s_the_beef%3F
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Message 1956 - Posted: 22 Oct 2013, 18:38:28 UTC
Hi all!

I've done a WU on my Mac (OS X 10.8.5) and it takes 6x the time of my "co-worker"!!!!!
Do you think it's normal???

He's computer i7 3,4G Win7
Mine is Xeon 5570 2,93G OSW 10.8.5

only 16% slower

Here's the WU : http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/workunit.php?wuid=8642684

Thx
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Message 1958 - Posted: 22 Oct 2013, 19:07:57 UTC - in response to Message 1956.  
Hi all!

I've done a WU on my Mac (OS X 10.8.5) and it takes 6x the time of my "co-worker"!!!!!
Do you think it's normal???

He's computer i7 3,4G Win7
Mine is Xeon 5570 2,93G OSW 10.8.5

only 16% slower

Here's the WU : http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/workunit.php?wuid=8642684

Thx


It's because we have no optimized app for Mac.
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Message 1959 - Posted: 22 Oct 2013, 19:27:53 UTC
Thx for your quick response!!
Do you plan to optimise this app??
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Message 1962 - Posted: 23 Oct 2013, 8:22:31 UTC
Yes, but I didn't have much time to solve this, because I have no Mac.
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Message 1963 - Posted: 23 Oct 2013, 17:47:18 UTC
OK!

I'm not a developer but if I can help you, don't hesitate and tell me!!
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Message 1965 - Posted: 24 Oct 2013, 6:19:09 UTC - in response to Message 1963.  

Probably the test can be done by releasing 'Test application' as on other projects:
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/apps.php

... and in 'Your account' - 'Preferences for this project':

Run test applications? no/yes
This helps us develop applications, but may cause jobs to fail on your computer





- ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :)
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Message 1966 - Posted: 24 Oct 2013, 15:21:59 UTC - in response to Message 1965.  
Problem with Mac is that we need Mac hw to make builds legally. We have no Mac now. The first build was done by volunteer user with Mac.
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