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Message 7965 - Posted: 16 Sep 2023, 11:12:09 UTC

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Thank you Georgi Vidinski!!! The AMD WUs are running like clockwork on my rigs. I jumped to 41k/day lol. Im looking forward to getting some work done for this project. Thank you again!
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Message 7969 - Posted: 16 Sep 2023, 15:05:10 UTC
On my RX6800 the first WU with the new OpenCL app seemed to work, and finished OK.

But it didn't validate againtst a CUDA card.

There are many more WU's in que, I'll keep an eye on them to see if they validate.
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Message 7971 - Posted: 16 Sep 2023, 15:30:26 UTC
On my R9 280X (7 of them) and my R9 Nano (1 of them), they're all validating, against Cuda and CPU. Seems to work differently on different cards, the previous version crashed in 2 seconds on my 280X cards.
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Message 7972 - Posted: 16 Sep 2023, 15:49:26 UTC - in response to Message 7971.  
On the previous version, the one WU that I ran, ran for 22 hours! or something like that (78.777 seconds), with 0.01% progress, where I aborted :)

So this is better now, with the new app.

And I'm sure they'll fix whatever error there is.
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Message 7973 - Posted: 16 Sep 2023, 16:14:10 UTC - in response to Message 7972.  
On the previous version, the one WU that I ran, ran for 22 hours! or something like that (78.777 seconds)
78.777 seconds is just over a minute.
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Message 7974 - Posted: 16 Sep 2023, 17:11:50 UTC

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since the app is more serialized, latest gen cards with high clock speeds seem to excel. that being the AMD 7000 series and nvidia 4000 series with clocks exceeding 2.5GHz. with more of an edge to the nvidia/CUDA cards still.

CPU remains overall more productive though (especially the high core count models), maybe this can change in the future. but nice to have more available devices to crunch if they wish to.

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Message 7975 - Posted: 16 Sep 2023, 17:28:10 UTC - in response to Message 7973.  

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That is 78 thousand and 777 seconds.

I don't know if you can see it, but this is the output.

https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=400155934

But it seems other computers had problems with that WU too, so it might be a fluke.

https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/workunit.php?wuid=175662331

And as a followup, the few Asteroids OpenCL that my GPU has completed until now, have all failed to validate.
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Message 7976 - Posted: 16 Sep 2023, 17:40:56 UTC - in response to Message 7974.  
since the app is more serialized, latest gen cards with high clock speeds seem to excel. that being the AMD 7000 series and nvidia 4000 series with clocks exceeding 2.5GHz. with more of an edge to the nvidia/CUDA cards still.

CPU remains overall more productive though (especially the high core count models), maybe this can change in the future. but nice to have more available devices to crunch if they wish to.
Georgi said they would be much faster when he increases the grid size. If he can make it 3.5 times faster, I can do the same amount of work on my GPUs as my CPUs. At the moment I'd just use CPUs and not add another 1/3.5th to the mix when they could be doing something else faster.
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Message 7977 - Posted: 16 Sep 2023, 17:47:17 UTC - in response to Message 7975.  

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That is 78 thousand and 777 seconds.
Oh, you write in English words but European maths :-P We call it a decimal point not a decimal comma. Do European compilers use commas? Big errors could happen!

I don't know if you can see it, but this is the output.
Yes, they're public.

https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=400155934
That's an aborted one. Can you link to one which failed to validate?

And as a followup, the few Asteroids OpenCL my GPU has completed until now, have all failed to validate.
I think all mine are working, but I do a lot of CPU tasks too, and I can't work out how to list only the GPU ones in my account on here.
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Message 7978 - Posted: 16 Sep 2023, 17:56:06 UTC - in response to Message 7977.  
I can link the 4 that have failed until now.

https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=401416451

https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=401416309

https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=401416396

https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=401416402

I have a few more with validation pending, but I'm not hopefull they'll validate.

I feel I have to say that my GPU participates in many other projects, and they all validate fine.
So I think the GPU is OK.
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Message 7979 - Posted: 16 Sep 2023, 18:10:50 UTC - in response to Message 7978.  
I can link the 4 that have failed until now.

https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=401416451

https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=401416309

https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=401416396

https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=401416402

I have a few more with validation pending, but I'm not hopefull they'll validate.

I feel I have to say that my GPU participates in many other projects, and they all validate fine.
So I think the GPU is OK.
Those outputs look like my successfull ones, except your card seems to only have 60 compute units instead of 64, strange for a better card, but the app has reduced the grid size accordingly. I guess it made a mistake with your compute unit count.

Also strange, the first link shows yours was a validate error, before the workunit has been finished, nobody else has checked if you or the cuda card was wrong. I guess there's a primary check before comparison, so it's not just slightly wrong but very wrong. I guess you have to wait for the next version of the program, perhaps leaving them running will give them data to work out what is wrong.
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Message 7981 - Posted: 16 Sep 2023, 18:53:24 UTC - in response to Message 7979.  

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I will leave it to go through the 60 WU's it has downloaded.

And as a positive note, I now have two GPU WU's that have validated (and one more invalid).

Valid:

https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=401416242

https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=401416429

Invalid:

https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=401416391

But not all is bad.
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Message 7982 - Posted: 16 Sep 2023, 18:58:14 UTC - in response to Message 7981.  
And as a positive note, I now have two GPU WU's that have validated (and one more invalid).
Odd some work and some don't. I can understand human inconsistency, but not computers!
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Message 7983 - Posted: 16 Sep 2023, 19:02:42 UTC - in response to Message 7982.  
There must be some small errors in the calculations.

I hope they are able to fix it.
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Message 7986 - Posted: 16 Sep 2023, 21:06:05 UTC - in response to Message 7922.  
Example of task failing due to Pop!_OS having disabled rusticl https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=401473651
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Message 7987 - Posted: 16 Sep 2023, 21:35:56 UTC

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thanks for the AMD app, nice job!

it takes about 6 minutes/task on my 7900 xtx https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/result.php?resultid=401460520

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enqueueing small kernels waiting on each other seems to be a significant bottleneck. Perhaps they could be inlined as functions?
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Message 8074 - Posted: 25 Sep 2023, 9:42:08 UTC - in response to Message 7953.  

i think your opencl version is too old, 1.1 is ancient. Mesa is generally not well suited for real compute loads. Many people have issues using Mesa with BOINC

try installing the real AMD drivers. you might have to back up to an older OS/kernel though. or try the ROCm drivers, but i think ROCm 5.6? was the last to support Vega


Works now with an extracten OpenCL stack from an older AMD-Driver (20.40). :)
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