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Message 7883 - Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 23:46:10 UTC
now have over 1 million tasks now ready to send
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Message 7885 - Posted: 31 Aug 2023, 0:44:45 UTC - in response to Message 7879.  
OUT OF WORK again, no new tasks
Why does this upset people? We're keeping up with the workload, this is good. Join a backup project.
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Message 7893 - Posted: 9 Sep 2023, 4:05:08 UTC - in response to Message 7885.  
Who is upset? No one looks upset ;)
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Message 7895 - Posted: 9 Sep 2023, 14:56:15 UTC
Every time there's no work left, people come in here and complain, and sometimes in capitals! If there was a fault to report perhaps, but we should all know by now the work is not enough for us to run every day.

Or is it? I notice the last addition to the work to send was much larger.
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Message 7898 - Posted: 9 Sep 2023, 15:43:38 UTC - in response to Message 7895.  
Well, I still believe using capital letters is just a way to say that out loud and nothing more.
And they are always been heard. As we are always aware of the fact that there is a gap again.

When you do science you have to be patient and you can always expect unexpected. ;)

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Message 7899 - Posted: 9 Sep 2023, 15:53:53 UTC
Yes I am patient, but it appears the others are not.

So did you get another data source? This graph (top left) shows you input a lot more data this time:

https://grafana.kiska.pw/d/boinc/boinc?orgId=1&var-project=Asteroids@Home&from=now-30d&to=now
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Message 7900 - Posted: 9 Sep 2023, 15:56:44 UTC - in response to Message 7899.  
At upper right corner you can set time.
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Message 7901 - Posted: 9 Sep 2023, 16:03:41 UTC

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Yes, I changed it to one month, this shows in the top left graph the last addition to work was much larger. I was wondering if he had another data source, so in future the work will not run out.
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Message 7902 - Posted: 9 Sep 2023, 17:29:25 UTC - in response to Message 7901.  
Yes, I changed it to one month, this shows in the top left graph the last addition to work was much larger. I was wondering if he had another data source, so in future the work will not run out.


I'm not aware of new observatory been joined to the data gathering process. It's more likely one of them just have sent bigger patch of data, but can't say for sure.
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Message 7903 - Posted: 9 Sep 2023, 17:49:09 UTC
I see from zooming out to a year, it has happened before. I can't understand why there was a gap after it instead of before though. A delay in data could result in double the batch size. But a delay after it?!
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Message 8078 - Posted: 26 Sep 2023, 11:21:24 UTC
This is to explain how(often)/when the new WUs are added. The units are created and added "manually" when I see that the number of tasks ready to send is small. The number of new units is not strictly defined; it varies from a couple of hundreds of thousands to millions. I know that it's not very smart to do it this way, but the advantage is that we have full control over what and when is added, and we are flexible in prioritizing some data sets if needed. The disadvantage is that there is sometimes a gap in the flow of tasks that some of you complain about and that gave name to this thread. I will try to minimize the time when the queue is empty, but the "out of work" situation will inevitably happen from to time, sorry. In such a situation, I kindly ask for your patience.
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Message 8156 - Posted: 28 Nov 2023, 21:09:09 UTC
out of work.......
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Message 8164 - Posted: 4 Dec 2023, 23:06:54 UTC
Getting tasks. Whee!
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Message 8496 - Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 7:19:11 UTC
Out of work again I see. Hope that can be remedied before the start of the work week.

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Message 8497 - Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 10:37:58 UTC
According to past data task supply has been stable for the past year.

https://grafana.kiska.pw/d/boinc/boinc?orgId=1&var-project=Asteroids@Home&from=now-1y&to=now
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Message 8498 - Posted: 28 Jul 2024, 23:26:48 UTC - in response to Message 8497.  
But they seem to have a repeating cycle of just letting the RTS buffer go to zero repeatedly until somebody prods them into creating more tasks.
https://grafana.kiska.pw/d/boinc/boinc?orgId=1&var-project=Asteroids@Home&from=now-24h&to=now

There doesn't seem to be any automatic mechanism to query the state of the tasks to send buffer and initiate a new data generation mechanism when the buffer is about to empty out.

I had to DM the admin on their Discord channel to get Georgi to notify Radim or Dr. Durech to create more work yesterday.

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Message 8499 - Posted: 29 Jul 2024, 4:46:31 UTC - in response to Message 8498.  

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Please read the following post https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=911&postid=7503#7503 to see why work generation isn't automated
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Message 8500 - Posted: 30 Jul 2024, 1:19:01 UTC - in response to Message 8499.  
OK, so we know the work generation is out of the hands of the admin.
My point is still, why isn't work generation automated in the hands of the scientists who ARE responsible for work generation.

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Message 8501 - Posted: 30 Jul 2024, 12:25:15 UTC - in response to Message 8500.  
OK, so we know the work generation is out of the hands of the admin.
My point is still, why isn't work generation automated in the hands of the scientists who ARE responsible for work generation.


it IS in the hands of the Project Scientist. they made the deliberate decision to not automate it to have more control over the process and which data gets priority in generation.

a few posts up: https://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=911&postid=8078

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Message 8502 - Posted: 31 Jul 2024, 2:33:59 UTC - in response to Message 8501.  
I never saw that post until you pointed it out. Explains why no tasks now is the norm.

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