Posts by Mr P Hucker
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(Message 7789)
Posted 17 days ago by Mr P Hucker Post: Certificate is renewed. Happy crunching :)https is a pain. Everything worked so smoothly before we got all security conscious for no reason. |
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(Message 7788)
Posted 17 days ago by Mr P Hucker Post: "the instant the server comes back"Only if the server is underpowered. That problem doesn't seem to occur here. |
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(Message 7787)
Posted 17 days ago by Mr P Hucker Post: Eh? I'm not the one getting annoyed. I dismissed the other guy's complaint about deadlines. My only complaint is ***under normal circumstances, not what happened here***, if I return my work unit late and you've started it, you waste your resources on it just for some pathetic reason of keeping people happy and not aborting what they're already doing. Think about it, I've painted a wall or whatever. You come along and start doing it, not knowing I've already done it. Would you really want to just do it anyway and waste time? Or be told to stop and you've only wasted a bit of time?I'm can't crunch because I'm out of work. I only hold a 1 day queue.Wow you're really taking this seriously aren't you ? chillax... |
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(Message 7783)
Posted 17 days ago by Mr P Hucker Post: we've already sent PM and email to the project admins.I'm can't crunch because I'm out of work. I only hold a 1 day queue. Deadlines are irrelevant, that's not how Boinc works. When I haven't sent a task in on time, the server will at some point give it to someone else, say you. If I then hand it in late, but before you've started it, your computer will be instructed to abort. I will still get the points. If you complete it before me, you get the points and I don't. But in this case, mine will be returned the instant the server comes back into availability and there's no way a resend could get done first, so I lose no points. The only stupid thing about this is if I return the result after you've started the resend, it lets you finish it, wasting your electricity and computing time which could have been on another task. The reason? They think it might upset people if they were halfway through a task and it was aborted. How utterly absurd. If need be give them partial points for their time. |
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(Message 7781)
Posted 18 days ago by Mr P Hucker Post: @KyongThis isn't Twitter, I don't think that kinda thing works here. They'll notice when they see nothing being sent back in. |
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(Message 7779)
Posted 18 days ago by Mr P Hucker Post: It is not the website becoming dangerous once the certificate expires. It is more about trust I guess.So you trust my passport even though it was stolen, just because it's in date? This shows how absurd SSL is. There's no reason whatsoever it becomes dangerous on that particular date. It gradually becomes less trustworthy starting from the date it was issued. A 10 year validity is really unusual by the way. Usually it is only one or two years (or even shorter).It used to be 10, all the ones I saw on Boinc were 10 years old. Some new over the top legislation by Google/Apple/the usual lot changed it to about 1 year. It's not even 365 days, they just made up a number at random. I can understand that this is annoying, but this is something the project administrators need to get a grip on. Especially as things like https://letsencrypt.org exist.They have more important things to be doing, like the science of the project, they shouldn't have to mess around with this utter nonsense. This is a really bad idea, especially, as you are executing code on your machines, that is downloaded from the internet. If you really want to, I am sure, you will find guides online, but I won't provide instructions.Jeez, I'm not asking you to help me rob a bank, I'm asking you to let me know how to bypass security on something which is not my internet banking and can't possibly put me in mortal danger! |
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(Message 7776)
Posted 18 days ago by Mr P Hucker Post: I'd like an explanation of how a website can become dangerous in literally one second. How can it be safe now, then not safe one second later? What's magical about these certificates? How can they prove a site is safe for the whole sometimes 10 years the certificate is issued for? It's like me getting a driving license which expires in 50 years, then saying I must therefore be a safe driver in 50 years, but in 51 years, I'm dangerous. Nonsensical.I just ignore that utter nonsense. How is it going to become unsafe because the certificate is a couple of days out of date, but it was ok a week ago?Well, this is basic web security. Yes, it is not less secure, as the connection is still encrypted. That being said you should never trust a connection with expired certificates. There is a reason why those have an expiration date. I don't follow guidelines on safety. I'm sick of this happening every couple of months to one project or another. I want it turned off. What do I need to sign in blood to make this happen?How do I tell Boinc to just go ahead?I guess you could try some trickery to get this working. Maybe there are some settings you can change in client configuration or you need to set up a custom proxy. But again I would advice against that and simply wait till the certificate is renewed. I already use squid proxy for Boinc (to cut the load on LHC servers for my 8 computers downloading the same dataset for every single VB task). Can I set something in there? How could a proxy override a browser's (or in this case Boinc's) security settings? |
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(Message 7774)
Posted 18 days ago by Mr P Hucker Post: I just ignore that utter nonsense. How is it going to become unsafe because the certificate is a couple of days out of date, but it was ok a week ago?I have 30 completed tasks but I keep getting a message that the Project has backed off the upload. I've checked the server status but that says everything's running. Any ideas?well, given that your browser should given you a HUGE warning that this website certificate has expired and can't be trusted, you should have a pretty good idea of what is wrong ;-) How do I tell Boinc to just go ahead? Feature request added to Boinc, I'm getting sick of pedantry getting in my way. https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/issues/5134 |
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(Message 7747)
Posted 22 Feb 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Very funny. |
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(Message 7740)
Posted 11 Feb 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: If you look at the BOINC dashboards, you'll see that the number of crunchers is pretty much stable forAsteroids, if not rising, so I think it's more data.That's good news. Right, so our mission is to keep up :-) |
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(Message 7738)
Posted 11 Feb 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Teams is misspelt as Tems, under Useful Links. |
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(Message 7737)
Posted 11 Feb 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: If the pause is shorter, either there's more data coming in, or less volunteers crunching. Which is it? |
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(Message 7735)
Posted 11 Feb 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Well I read on here they use many sources of scope data. Yet the results only show a couple. So presumably they need to buy more. |
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(Message 7732)
Posted 9 Feb 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Do we need a donation to buy more telescope data? |
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(Message 7711)
Posted 16 Jan 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Depends on your point of view. I want to do the most work I can on the systems I have. I'm not an environmentalist. Whatever power required is used....finding the best performed application for every particular system...How do you actually define what's the best instruction set? I think it should be the most energy efficient. See, for example: And you can't expect the server to work out the most efficient on every single different CPU we all have. That's up to you. |
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(Message 7694)
Posted 13 Jan 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: 3 million, that was a bigger batch! Engage! |
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(Message 7690)
Posted 11 Jan 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Argh, that's the last time I use preview. I realised 0.1 seconds after closing the browser, I was looking at the preview and not my actual post. I'll type it again.... I have pendings back to Jan 1 which is the deadline horizon if these website side times are GMT. I feel like the amount of pendings i have outstanding relative to how much i have validated is rather low.Yeah they'll get done eventually. Chances are if they time out the next guy will do them straight away. I for example return them in about a day. There's nothing dodgy going on here like in Rosetta where tasks get lost and not resent or something. The available work behavior seems to be systematic, a large amount of work becomes available it gets worked out before new work is added, it runs out for a couple days and new work becomes available. I'm sure someone could better illustrate the work availability of timer.I read on the main page they get data from all sorts of telescopes. I guess those send them here in batches every week. They need more sources to keep us busy! |
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(Message 7688)
Posted 11 Jan 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Hey KeithThose are all allocated to mojdan in Czech who has 72 machines! None are android, so I guess a PC can validate a phone. Unfortunately for you he's set a buffer of about 5.5 days. That's if he doesn't run other projects aswell. |
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(Message 7683)
Posted 9 Jan 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: Peter,My point is your whole CPU can do more than your whole GPU, which is unheard of in Boinc projects. |
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(Message 7680)
Posted 8 Jan 2023 by Mr P Hucker Post: One more thing I've thought of. For anyone running a single Asteroids task at a time on their GPU: How much RAM is used inside the GPU? Could you fit more tasks in at once? If the GPU is not fully utilised (check in MSI Afterburner, GPU-Z, etc.) it may be waiting on the CPU. Load as many Asteroids tasks onto the GPU at once as will fit into it's RAM (although more than 4 is probably overkill). That way it can grab 4 CPU cores instead of just 1, and get on with work more quickly. To achieve this, in C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\asteroidsathome.net_boinc (or similar folder if your system is different to mine), place a file called app_config.xml if it's not there already. Just a plain text file, containing: <app_config>
<app>
<name>asteroids</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.25</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>0.010000</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>You will need to change "asteroids" to the correct term for the GPU version of the app, I don't know what that is since I have no Nvidia GPUs to get one. If you don't know, simply use the example above, then Boinc will produce an error like:Your app_config.xml file refers to an unknown application 'asteroids'. Known applications: 'something','somethingelse'Where "something" and "somethingelse" are the possible app names. |
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