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Message 7235 - Posted: 20 Jun 2021, 5:41:09 UTC - in response to Message 7234.  

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I checked in my Burns book.The poem is To A Mouse. It reads, more correctly:
"...The best-laid schemes o' mice an' men
Gang aft agley.
An' leave us nought but grief an' pain,
For promis'd joy."

Asteroids@Home may not be the best-laid scheme of BOINC an' men.
An' occasionally leaves us grief and pain.

But mayhap this new server status update
Will brang us promis'd joy again.

S. Gaber
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Message 7240 - Posted: 25 Jun 2021, 12:53:30 UTC - in response to Message 7235.  
Burns. That explains it.

It's been a few years since my last Burns Supper. Was traveling in '19 and '20 then the Wuhan Flu killed it this year.

Reminds me, I need to get a new caber and start training for next years Scottish Games.

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Message 7241 - Posted: 2 Jul 2021, 13:22:17 UTC
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Message 7242 - Posted: 2 Jul 2021, 17:11:03 UTC - in response to Message 7241.  

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Jiāyóu ??

... " COME ON "...??

...from someone with no credit and no RAC....:{
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Message 7243 - Posted: 3 Jul 2021, 4:33:03 UTC - in response to Message 7241.  

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What? You're complaining about off-topic discussions? Has there been any work or communication for us to discuss anything else? And who are you to complain anyway?

I've been crunching Asteroids@Home for several years and have donated thousands of hours of my computer time. So I have some investment in the project.

When they send us some W.U.s and/or some official communication, we'll talk about the project.

Until then, and until you have contributed here, you have no standing on this issue. And no reason to complain.
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Message 7244 - Posted: 4 Jul 2021, 16:04:37 UTC - in response to Message 7228.  
It is now the 4th of July (Happy Forth to the USA) and still no work units, fully functioning server, or reports from Admin. Us users are beginning to feel like Rodney Dangerfield (we don't get no respect)!!!

An outdated quote from 16th March 2021 is NOT worth much! If the Admins have any respect for the users time, Electricity, and effort, they would provide additional support to the users!

The answer to your query is likely to be on the Main Page (16th March 2021):

"Server status update: Server is now ready to continue operating and there will be more workunits to send. But please be aware that it is still a temporary solution because new server won't by any sooner then on May or June and there still might happen some problems.
Radim Vančo (FoxKyong)"

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Message 7245 - Posted: 4 Jul 2021, 16:47:45 UTC
Many moons ago when I worked in manufacturing, we had a saying, "If you can't do the job, bid out!

I'm getting the feeling if the Administrators of this project can do the job, they should get out of it and let someone more qualified run the project.

You can't start something you can't finish and expect respect from those who do contribute whole heartily.
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Message 7246 - Posted: 4 Jul 2021, 22:16:41 UTC
I don't understand why people criticize project owners/admins. They are volunteers themselves who often invest their own time and money into these projects. They have real life responsibilities too. It's not as if the people who want to run this project have paid a fee to run it. There are many other projects out there you can put your systems to use on. I'm sure Kyong will get the project running as soon as he can. If someone is willing cover the cost of having someone else handle the server installation, message Kyong with your offer. In the meantime, run some other project.
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Message 7247 - Posted: 6 Jul 2021, 1:07:37 UTC - in response to Message 7246.  
I don't understand why people criticize project owners/admins. They are volunteers themselves who often invest their own time and money into these projects. They have real life responsibilities too. It's not as if the people who want to run this project have paid a fee to run it. There are many other projects out there you can put your systems to use on. I'm sure Kyong will get the project running as soon as he can. If someone is willing cover the cost of having someone else handle the server installation, message Kyong with your offer. In the meantime, run some other project.


I tend to agree, but a small one-sentence token message of explanation or request for patience would help dispel nagging doubts and frustrations about the project. The Charles University doesn't seem to have any knowledge or interest in this important project associated with it.

Numerous people have offered to donate money and/or equipment to help alleviate the long-term outages and technical problems like we've noticed these recent months. But we've never received a response to these offers.

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Message 7248 - Posted: 6 Jul 2021, 20:48:37 UTC
I suspect that many post authors could help themselves by checking the server status with a few clicks. Within the BOINC Manager application, and the Projects tab, select Asteroids@Home, and click on the Home Page button. At the Asteroids@home website, and under the Returning Participants section, click on the Server Status link. Much is revealed on this page. The server status has been all green for many months, suggesting that the hardware has been running well, and I'm guessing that a hardware upgrade or replacement has not happened, and I could speculate that maybe it is no longer needed.

On the Computing Status side of this same page, you can see the work units available, and in work. The Tasks ready to send is currently 0. This number is routinely 1,000,000 + when a new job is created. The work for the most recent job dried up on about June 23. All work that you received since this date is recycled from jobs that timed out with your peers. The Tasks in progress are 9836 (when I wrote this piece), and this number is routinely 400,000 + when we are all loaded up with work. Also note the Users in last 24 hours is 189, which I think is closer to 5000 when we are all up and running.

From my perspective, the 'system' is working just fine, but there is currently, and simply, no work to do.
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Message 7249 - Posted: 7 Jul 2021, 7:24:39 UTC - in response to Message 7248.  

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I suspect that many post authors could help themselves by checking the server status with a few clicks. Within the BOINC Manager application, and the Projects tab, select Asteroids@Home, and click on the Home Page button. At the Asteroids@home website, and under the Returning Participants section, click on the Server Status link. Much is revealed on this page. The server status has been all green for many months, suggesting that the hardware has been running well, and I'm guessing that a hardware upgrade or replacement has not happened, and I could speculate that maybe it is no longer needed.

On the Computing Status side of this same page, you can see the work units available, and in work. The Tasks ready to send is currently 0. This number is routinely 1,000,000 + when a new job is created. The work for the most recent job dried up on about June 23. All work that you received since this date is recycled from jobs that timed out with your peers. The Tasks in progress are 9836 (when I wrote this piece), and this number is routinely 400,000 + when we are all loaded up with work. Also note the Users in last 24 hours is 189, which I think is closer to 5000 when we are all up and running.

From my perspective, the 'system' is working just fine, but there is currently, and simply, no work to do.


I check the server status every day. There has simply been no new work for several weeks now, and several months before that.

I also understand the notion of no new work. WUs get processed, are finished and we wait for more. Meanwhile, my computer is not idle. It crunches other BOINC projects.


But I think it would be nice and would make a lot of people happy if those in charge of this research would now and then issue a note, an explanation, some kind of communication, a request for patience or an acknowledgement.

As the Laird of the Wee White House said, "I Dinnae ask for a complete Ph.D, just a few words, so we have some idea; when, what, where..."

...and maybe why?

S. Gaber
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Message 7250 - Posted: 10 Jul 2021, 22:03:32 UTC
I feel like a mushroom left uninformed and fed a bunch of sh--.
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Message 7251 - Posted: 11 Jul 2021, 15:26:51 UTC - in response to Message 7250.  

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I feel like a mushroom left uninformed and fed a bunch of sh--.


You mean kept in the dark like mushrooms are grown?

On the other hand, that sh--ty fertile soil in which they are grown produces good results.

Maybe we should take that as our metaphor.

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Message 7252 - Posted: 11 Jul 2021, 19:10:15 UTC
I was trying to keep it clean and on topic.

The one I was taught is "I feel like a mushroom that's kept in the dark and fed sh--".

I suppose both of them work though.
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Message 7253 - Posted: 11 Jul 2021, 20:42:44 UTC - in response to Message 7250.  
I feel like a mushroom left uninformed and fed a bunch of sh--.


This project obviously believes in the Mushroom Theory of Management!!
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Message 7254 - Posted: 12 Jul 2021, 5:01:57 UTC - in response to Message 7253.  
I feel like a mushroom left uninformed and fed a bunch of sh--.


This project obviously believes in the Mushroom Theory of Management!!


Yes. It's remarkable how this forum topic has gone all to sh-t. But that's fine with me.

Before all this happened (or didn't happen), moderators would never have let it continue, being off-topic and scatological.

With no input or oversight by admins, the standards have fallen considerably. But I like it. I think a little levity is good. It's humorous and more fun. Less scientific, but more fun.

S. Gaber
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Message 7257 - Posted: 12 Jul 2021, 21:10:33 UTC - in response to Message 7254.  
So this is life on Spaceball One. From a humble beginning as a single celled organism, to a space sensing race crunching numbers for our dear Dark leader, who does not deem us worthy of gracing us with his Helmet. O' to writhe in joyous solitude when once again we are granted the W. U.'s that our CPU's and GPU's so desperately crave. We whisper softly to the box "Yes, soon you will savor the polynomial, taste the sweet tangent, and devourer the elliptical data of far flung intra-solar rocks at Ludicrous sped while enjoying the lovely Plaid that your cores gaze upon in your electronic Heaven."

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Message 7258 - Posted: 13 Jul 2021, 15:17:09 UTC - in response to Message 7257.  
To quote PMQ's and Hansard...I refer the Honourable Gentleman to the answer I gave some moments ago...in the Wish List thread..."Don't hold your breath waiting for a response...and complaining is quite likely to get you a 3 day ban, because, obviously, that's the constructive way to deal with volunteers asking for communication, consideration, and a bit of respect from the Borg Collective in charge of this project..."...
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Message 7259 - Posted: 13 Jul 2021, 18:36:01 UTC - in response to Message 7257.  
So this is life on Spaceball One. From a humble beginning as a single celled organism, to a space sensing race crunching numbers for our dear Dark leader, who does not deem us worthy of gracing us with his Helmet. O' to writhe in joyous solitude when once again we are granted the W. U.'s that our CPU's and GPU's so desperately crave. We whisper softly to the box "Yes, soon you will savor the polynomial, taste the sweet tangent, and devourer the elliptical data of far flung intra-solar rocks at Ludicrous sped while enjoying the lovely Plaid that your cores gaze upon in your electronic Heaven."

Dave S.
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Excelsior!

The capillaries of our motherboards, the transistors and capacitors of our memory cells grow warm in response to the communication from a fellow supplicant. Sadly, said communication was not emitted from the Sourece of All Data whose recognition our starved CPU/GPU brains so despreately crave. Yet our hard drive hearts still flail in hopeful anticipation that one nanosecond of acknowledgement or appreciation shall emanate from that reputed academic Olympian on whose behalf we foolishly labor and whose attention we anxiously await.

S. Gaber
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Message 7260 - Posted: 14 Jul 2021, 21:07:59 UTC - in response to Message 7259.  
So this is life on Spaceball One. From a humble beginning as a single celled organism, to a space sensing race crunching numbers for our dear Dark leader, who does not deem us worthy of gracing us with his Helmet. O' to writhe in joyous solitude when once again we are granted the W. U.'s that our CPU's and GPU's so desperately crave. We whisper softly to the box "Yes, soon you will savor the polynomial, taste the sweet tangent, and devourer the elliptical data of far flung intra-solar rocks at Ludicrous sped while enjoying the lovely Plaid that your cores gaze upon in your electronic Heaven."

Dave S.
"There is no box, just think and do that which is right."
~me~


Excelsior!

The capillaries of our motherboards, the transistors and capacitors of our memory cells grow warm in response to the communication from a fellow supplicant. Sadly, said communication was not emitted from the Sourece of All Data whose recognition our starved CPU/GPU brains so despreately crave. Yet our hard drive hearts still flail in hopeful anticipation that one nanosecond of acknowledgement or appreciation shall emanate from that reputed academic Olympian on whose behalf we foolishly labor and whose attention we anxiously await.

S. Gaber


We wait no longer!

The gods of solar dynamics have heard our cries in the dark. Our prayers are answered.

Today I got 17 Asteroids W.U.s.

Yippee and hallelueah. We'll see long this lasts.

S. Gaber
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