Posts by BilBg
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(Message 4357)
Posted 7 Apr 2015 by 
BilBg
Post: So you prefer to run less effective app?? If you are afraid of overheating use: TThrottle Since you don't say which CPU of yours you talk about: http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/hosts_user.php?userid=61328 ... find by yourself it's temperature limits. You also seem to say the core temperatures "jump to 70°C" but Intel defines TCASE Max: "Case Temperature is the maximum temperature allowed at the processor Integrated Heat Spreader (IHS)." Some similar CPUs: http://ark.intel.com/products/65523/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz TCASE 67.4°C http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i7/Intel-Core%20i7-3770K.html |
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(Message 4341)
Posted 3 Apr 2015 by
BilBg
Post: I just stated that Don't you think this is very specific thread?: "Download errors are back" http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=263 and b) that JohnMD's comment was indeed rude somehow. Not for me, I think it was too soft. Too many people post about 'their' problem and create additional posts/threads before reading what exists already |
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(Message 4340)
Posted 3 Apr 2015 by
BilBg
Post: Are any of you getting any GPU jobs at all? Linux jobs is what I'm mostly interested in ;) You know for a long time that there is no such thing as 'GPU jobs' and 'Linux jobs' WUs are the same, tasks from the same WU are sent to any system/app: http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=425&postid=4311#4311 |
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(Message 4339)
Posted 3 Apr 2015 by
BilBg
Post: Or, you could have just said ... No, his post tell the right thing to do - read first. There are too many threads that discuss 'your' problem for a weeks now. |
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(Message 4326)
Posted 2 Apr 2015 by
BilBg
Post: it seems that instead of the WU's data, the server provides just the 39-byte MD5 sum If you go to: http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/download/317/ ,,, you will see that input_4532_19.md5 exists but input_4532_19 is not there Kyong (the admin) say it is caused by BOINC server and re-using "same input name as before" "I have checked how the BOINC server is checking the input files that have the same input name as before" http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=424&postid=4212#4212 Seems that BOINC server prematurely deletes WU files |
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(Message 4321)
Posted 2 Apr 2015 by
BilBg
Post: After all, it was just a SWAG on my part ... :D I searched a long time what is 'SWAG' but it seems to mean so many things that I am in a loss (I'm not a teenager ;) ) https://www.google.com/#q=SWAG |
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Posted 2 Apr 2015 by
BilBg
Post: (1st of April - post to edit the title) |
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Posted 1 Apr 2015 by
BilBg
Post: Enlarged Desktop too much, now can't find where to click Desktop is big but unreadable, maybe I have to click in the middle?: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74478&postid=1607605#1607605 |
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(Message 4311)
Posted 1 Apr 2015 by
BilBg
Post: My guess is that CPU/Android WUs are being sent to CPU clients... but chances are I'm completely wrong. :) :) Yes, you are "completely wrong" - WUs are the same, tasks from the same WU are sent to any system/app E.g. this WU was sent to Android/ARMv7 , Windows 7/Xeon/sse2 , Linux/GeForce GTX 760/cuda55 http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/workunit.php?wuid=25611058 ... and as you can see is "Completed and validated" |
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(Message 4305)
Posted 30 Mar 2015 by
BilBg
Post: You already know this is discussed elsewhere: http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=424&postid=4220#4220 Posts by Kyong http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_user_posts.php?userid=1 And I always wonder why people 'feel bad' when they see Download errors - this is bad for the project, not for the users. ("bad for the project" - I don't know if the failed WUs will be recreated with 'good' names so not to be deleted by BOINC server) I just now started again work fetch (Allow New Tasks) to help kill some bad WUs |
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(Message 4302)
Posted 30 Mar 2015 by
BilBg
Post: ... but i have another mobile CPU attached on another project ... when is on some task written 32000 secs, then it will do it for this time,... On this "another project" (SETI@home): http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7522532 ... this Pentium M processor 1.70GHz CPU have "Number of tasks completed 41": http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/host_app_versions.php?hostid=7522532 So BOINC had time/'experience' to show you better estimated time Check what BOINC knows for your Atom on this project/apps by yourself: http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/host_app_versions.php?hostid=154098 *** In the task there are no 'written' seconds, instead it have <rsc_fpops_est>XXXXXXXXXX</rsc_fpops_est> (the Copy/Paste is from my client_state.xml from 26.03.2015 copy)
<workunit>
<name>period_search_1010_1426497677.081390_228913</name>
<app_name>period_search</app_name>
<version_num>10210</version_num>
<rsc_fpops_est>55757157098049.469000</rsc_fpops_est>
<rsc_fpops_bound>5575715709804947.000000</rsc_fpops_bound>
<rsc_memory_bound>64000000.000000</rsc_memory_bound>
<rsc_disk_bound>100000000.000000</rsc_disk_bound>
<file_ref>
<file_name>input_4801_69</file_name>
<open_name>period_search_in</open_name>
</file_ref>
</workunit>
fpops_est = Floating-Point OPerationS _ Estimation (this is Not per sec, this is Estimation of total needed fpops to finish the task) BOINC uses rsc_fpops_est (which is set by the project) and several other factors (which estimate in general the speed of the computer system) to show estimated times. You may just not pay attention to BOINC estimates or you may go crazy ;) If you really want to go crazy: https://www.google.com/#q=boinc+estimated+cpu+time+remaining https://www.google.com/#q=boinc+estimated+cpu+time+code+rsc_fpops_est http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/CreditNew *** http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/RuntimeEstimation The only case when the estimated time matters is when it is 'too' low As you can see by this two lines: <rsc_fpops_est>55757157098049.469000</rsc_fpops_est> <rsc_fpops_bound>5575715709804947.000000</rsc_fpops_bound> ... here on Asteroids@home the task is allowed to run at most 100x times the initial estimate (after that it will be auto-aborted by BOINC, this is to avoid hang apps to run 'forever') On SETI@home this was (~year ago (?)) 10x and now is 20x |
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(Message 4293)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by
BilBg
Post: Several programs I use have "Memory Clean"/"Memory Usage Trim" Options: Memory Cleaner (Koshy John) Process Lasso System Explorer In fact all such programs call standard Windows functions to do the job Usage of such programs/tools to "Trim Memory Usage" of processes may be helpful up to some point. Windows do this "Trim" by its own when an active program want more Memory then RAM is free at the moment. The real cure is to find the 'bad' (RAM leaking) program, then find different version which don't have the bug or find alternative program for the same job. If no alternatives/versions are viable - restart the 'bad' (RAM leaking) program as often as needed (e.g. once a day). P.S. BUT I don't think that the Atom CPU that was in the beginning of this 'RAM talk' have any issue. The Atom is just not so fast ;) |
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(Message 4290)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by
BilBg
Post: I discovered (with 32GB of RAM ...) that RAM usage crept up and up. You have to have some program with very serious memory leak (bug) to fill 32GB in one day. (I have 3 GB of RAM for Windows XP - sometimes I don't need a Reboot for weeks. Only restart per 2-3 days the only program with memory leak here - cracked (by Russians) Skype 4.2.0.187 - I hate the new Skype (No, I will not 'update'; No, I am not afraid of Russian cracks) ) Which program uses so many GB of RAM is easy to see by any of: Windows Task Manager Process Explorer Process Lasso System Explorer ProcessHacker (no need of links - first result in Google is OK for all of them) |
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(Message 4289)
Posted 29 Mar 2015 by
BilBg
Post: I had there estimated time 2000 sec, after day it growed up to 20000 sec Usually BOINC, when you start on some new app/project, 'thinks' the opposite - estimated time is 10x more than real. In your case BOINC did it (estimation) wrong somehow the other way. As you can guess it is not possible Xeon 3.00GHz to do this same task in >9000 seconds by AVX app and your Atom 1.66GHz to manage to do it in 2000 seconds by SSE3 app Estimation should become better after you do some more tasks. |
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(Message 4280)
Posted 28 Mar 2015 by
BilBg
Post: This is on Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N570 @ 1.66GHz so CPU time is probably OK http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/show_host_detail.php?hostid=154098 On Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 v2 @ 3.00GHz this same task was done in 9,494 seconds (by avx app) http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/workunit.php?wuid=28460063 Speed (PassMark) 588 vs 17259 (for all Cores/Threads total) http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Atom+N570+%40+1.66GHz http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E5-2690+v2+%40+3.00GHz Atom: Single Thread Rating: 258 Xeon: Single Thread Rating: 1821 1821 / 258 = 7 (one Thread of this Xeon is 7 times faster than one Thread of this Atom for this Benchmark) 7 * 9494 = 66458 seconds (maybe) for this task when will be done on the Atom Since Asteroids@home apps do not have (obviously) the same code as the above Benchmarks this my estimation is only raw guess (and your Atom runs this task by SSE3 app but the Xeon did it by AVX app) P.S. Since "report deadline: Sun Apr 5" it is a puzzle for me why do you think that "the work should be done day ago" |
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(Message 4279)
Posted 28 Mar 2015 by
BilBg
Post: Period Search Application needs 95.37MB more disk space. You currently have 0.00 MB available and it needs 95.37 MB. There are 3 Settings you need to adjust. Those Settings are for all projects, not per project. So you can adjust here or at any other project: http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/prefs.php?subset=global Disk Use no more than X GB Leave at least 0.YY GB free Use no more than ZZ% of total The most restrictive of the 3 'wins' If you use Local preferences http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Local_preferences#Disk_and_memory_usage The (same) web Settings are ignored if you use Local preferences: "Settings override the same preferences set on the project's web page preferences" |
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(Message 4274)
Posted 27 Mar 2015 by
BilBg
Post: And now I have 9 WU in progress according to the server, but only 6 actually in my cache:-/ http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/server_status.php Yesterday, when people complained about "validation seems stuck" http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/forum_thread.php?id=424&postid=4257#4257 ... the "Transitioner backlog (hours)" was (IIRC) ~17 h So, at that moment, everything you see on the web pages may be 'back in time' I don't know if this project have mirror/backup database - if the web pages are served by looking in mirror the info may be old when database is overloaded |
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(Message 4255)
Posted 25 Mar 2015 by
BilBg
Post: "Posted: 25 Mar 2015, 14:42:41 UTC" You had some new tasks given at "25 Mar 2015, 14:41:18 UTC" (1-2 minutes before post) http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/results.php?hostid=152379 Your other computer have only 'Error while computing' and 'Abandoned' tasks: Edit: just when I type this you received new tasks: http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/results.php?hostid=152381 I don't know why all 'Error while computing' say 'Incorrect function', Overclock? |
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(Message 4254)
Posted 25 Mar 2015 by
BilBg
Post: a completed WU should have an output file for the server to try to validate.. Even 'Aborted by user' at 0% (which of course do not have "an output file") and 'Error while computing' will show as 'Ready to report' And during Update BOINC will show in log "Reporting X completed tasks" If BOINC thinks that Download trouble is temporary then task will stay in 'Transfers' ready to 'Retry' If BOINC give up on Download it will declare the task as Error and 'Ready to report' |
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(Message 4247)
Posted 25 Mar 2015 by
BilBg
Post: BOINC is reporting failed d/l as completed tasks!! Of course. Failed or not they are 'completed' in the sense they are 'Ready to report' |
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